"I think it was always - and I don’t even know if we’ve ever talked about this much, the way it worked with the five of us, is I was always in the middle. I was not a peacemaker, but I was trying to be peacekeeper. I was desperately trying to make sure everything would work. I feel like, for a while there, there was this real lack of unity. For me, to have one of those sides fall off [with the Farros leaving], it was kind of like ‘I don’t have to be this middleman anymore. I can actually unite with Hayley and Jeremy. We can actually be a team."
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